Wednesday, June 10, 2009

True Christians preach the whole Bible – and pray for Obama to be struck down by God

There are many various types of believers in the world of Christianity, and Wiley Drake, the former vice president of the Southern Baptist convention, is among those who believe in "Imprecatory prayer" – aka. praying for God to curse someone – to strike down those he believes defy God's will and power and whatever. I dunno about you, but I think he may have a better chance with a voodoo doll.

Recently he appeared on the Alan Colmes radio show, and there he openly announced he was praying for President Obama's death, along with Dr. George Tiller's, and "several others" as well. Yeah, he's not a nut at all.

NEW YORK (ABP) -- A former Southern Baptist Convention officer who on June 2 called the death of abortion provider George Tiller an answer to prayer said later in the day he is also praying "imprecatory prayer" against President Obama.

Wiley Drake, pastor of First Southern Baptist Church in Buena Park, Calif., and former running mate of American Independent Party presidential candidate Alan Keyes, said June 2 on Fox News Radio he didn't understand why people were upset with his comments quoted by Associated Baptist Press from a webcast of his daily radio talk show.

"Imprecatory prayer is agreeing with God, and if people don't like that, they need to talk to God," Drake told syndicated talk-show host Alan Colmes. "God said it, I didn't. I was just agreeing with God."

Asked if there are others for whom Drake is praying "imprecatory prayer," Drake hesitated before answering that there are several. "The usurper that is in the White House is one, B. Hussein Obama," he said.

Later in the interview, Colmes returned to Drake's answer to make sure he heard him right.

"Are you praying for his death?" Colmes asked.

"Yes," Drake replied.

"So you're praying for the death of the president of the United States?"


Colmes asked Drake if he was concerned that by saying that he might be placed on a Secret Service or FBI watch list, and if he believed it appropriate to talk or pray that way.

"I think it's appropriate to pray the Word of God," Drake said. "I'm not saying anything. What I am doing is repeating what God is saying, and if that puts me on somebody's list, then I'll just have to be on their list."

"You would like for the president of the United States to die?" Colmes asked once more.

"If he does not turn to God and does not turn his life around, I am asking God to enforce imprecatory prayers that are throughout the Scripture that would cause him death, that's correct."

Most of the half-hour interview on "The Alan Colmes Show" is premium programming available by paid subscription, but a five-minute clip appeared as a "top video" on the Fox News Radio website.

Drake said he didn't pray for Tiller to be murdered -- only that God would take his life by some method -- but that he "absolutely" believed that God wanted the doctor dead.

"I believe the whole Bible, Alan," he explained. "I don't just preach part of it. I don't just preach the soft, fuzzy, warm stuff where we're supposed to be nice to everybody. I preach the whole Bible."

Part of the Bible, Drake claimed, is imprecatory prayer -- words of judgment in the Psalms prayed back to God -- a practice he said the church has lost.

Drake fielded calls from a few listeners, including one identifying himself as a lifelong Southern Baptist who said he was saddened to hear a minister would pray for someone to die.

"This whole concept that we're always to pray little, nice, soft, fluffy, prayers -- that we're not to pray imprecatory prayer -- has been something that just, in all honesty, that Southern Baptists have lost, and we need to regain imprecatory prayer," Drake said. "It is in the Bible, and we are proud to say as Southern Baptists that we believe the Book. You've got to believe the whole Book, brother, or you don't believe any of it."

Asked if he thinks there might be other people praying imprecatory prayers for him that might be successful, Drake said, "Well, that's certainly possible, but that's in God's hands, not in mine."

Well, I wouldn't pray for God to take his life – it wouldn't even work to begin with, hyuk hyuk – but I would certainly pray that the proper authorities place him in a padded room for a while. If only so we don't have to hear such insanity and kookery again for a while.

And as if he hadn't proven himself to be a sheer cuckoo yet, he then hits the bottom of the barrel and keeps digging still into the mud underneath the barrel bottom as he delves into conspiracy nutter land:

Drake said he did not believe Tiller's accused killer is a pro-life Christian.

"I'm of the opinion -- and now everybody's going to say 'There goes Wiley down the conspiracy-theory road,' I'm of the opinion that somebody in the Obama camp had this guy killed."

"Who benefits the most from this man killing a doctor?" Drake asked. "We certainly don't. Pro-life people certainly don't. It hurts us. It damages us, but Obama will indeed advance it. This will be one of those crises to take advantage of, and he's already done that."

Sorry bub, your hypothesis has just been shot up in smoke. Scott Roeder, the filthy murderer in question, is a pro-life Christian nutcase. He's said so himself. The anti-abortionist group lost a little of its image in the face of the brutal murder, but they did gain alot – namely the death of their chief symbol of the "enemy" and the closure of his notorious clinic. Obama certainly has gained nothing in the face of this despicable event.

How 'bout that padded room now, Drake?


  • BuffaloWilder

     Now, wait just a second. Is this guy actually trying to apply some sort of lesson from Psalms - which was a book of poetry, from the Old Testament - to everyday hob-knobbery? This is astounding.
     Here's a couple of theological responses from an LA Times article -
    "They are more of a window into the sinfulness of human beings," said Fredrickson, an assistant professor of pastoral ministry at the Pasadena school. "Normally when we think about praying, we're thinking about prayers of adoration, prayers of confession, prayers for someone we're concerned about who is sick or going through a hard time, or those sort of prayers for ourselves -- not the sort of vindictive, revengeful statements. These prayers are contrary to the way of Jesus."
    "In the New Testament, Jesus Christ comes and says, 'Forgive your enemies, pray for your enemies, love your enemies,' " Yagi said. "This idea of enemies has really changed in the New Testament. We cannot do those things, because Jesus Christ taught us to forgive our enemies, love our enemies, pray for our enemies and he died for his enemies."
    How - bizarre.

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